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happen. remember, sean, it can be your child. i agree. it's scary. >> this is a happy time for you. >> yes. >> thank you. >> sean, thank you. >> that is all the time we have left tonight. greta goes "on the record" right now. the takedown and interrogation of the benghazi suspect. is he singing? "on the record" starts right now. >> this is lawmaker extremist on a slow boat to america. >> is he supposedly a ringleader. >> u.s. agents capturing the suspected benghazi terrorist. will he lead us to the other killers? "on the record" investigates and developing now. [gunfire] >> extreme turmoil in iraq. gas prices climbing, instability growing and terror on the march. "on the record" live in iraq. >> i can tell you what i would be doing, burning up the telephone wires. >> secretary hillary clinton saying she would do more to help our marine jailed in mexico. >> that is just unacceptable. >> so where is secretary john kerry and will when will the obama
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administration bring sergeant tahmooressi home. "on the record" getting answers tonight. >> you this is a fox news alert. is he headed this way. the benghazi suspect nabbed by u.s. special forces. he is on board a navy ship where he is being interrogated for the very latest on the suspect's slow trip to the u.n. fox news security correspondent correspondent jennifer griffin joins us from the pentagon. >> u.s. officials tell it me that khatallah is talking right now. in in fact, is he giving his military interrogators a history lesson on ansar al cherie a all of this is taking place on board the uss new york. officials say they will be taking their time as they steam towards the united states under normal circumstances it would take about a week for a ship to get from the mediterranean to the u.s. in terms of ansar al sharia, u.s. intelligence knew that the group was behind the attack on the u.s. compound in benghazi, almost immediately after the attack. there was an internal email within the state department
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suggesting as much within the first 24 hours of the attack. u.s. forces have been tracking khatallah since about five weeks after the benghazi attack. chairman of the joint chiefs general martin dempsey said sunday's operation took months to prepare for, required what he described as an intelligence soak. senior u.s. officials say they gained intelligence from watching khatallah for many months. we now know that the delta force operators, like the ones who carried out this capture of a wanted terrorist abu al-libbi back in october practiced on a mock-up of khatallah's home before launching the operation which was over in a quick 32 minutes. he was picked up at his house south of benghazi. u.s. military interrogators don't know how long they will have to question khatallah before he is he is mirandized and given a lawyer. that decision is up to the president, the libyans have expressed anger that he they were not told about the raid in advance and are demanding khatallah's return, greta. >> jennifer, two questions here. you may be telling us the
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history of ansar al sharia. are they the ones behind this benghazi takedown? >> it's not clear at this point. in fact, pentagon officials are being extremely careful, saying almost nothing about khatallah, where he is being held and what he is saying, of course, because they don't want to jeopardize the chance for the justice department to bring a case against them. they don't want to give his defense lawyer any ammunition, greta. >> jennifer, thank you. and an exploding controversy over what should happen to this benghazi suspect when he finally does arrive in the united states. obama administration wants him to stand trial in a federal court. senator lindsey graham says the administration is dead wrong about that senator graham joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you. dead wrong about that. >> beyond dead wrong. this is really the most ill conceived idea coming out of an administration that seems to have no limits. only ill conceived ideas. instead of a slow boat to new york should be on a fast plane to gitmo. taking a guy to new york on
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a ship and when you dock you read him his rights destroys the ability to gather intelligence. i never want this guy to hear you have the right to remain silent any time soon. i want him to talk. and under the law of war, putting people on ships is frowned upon. how would you like an american to be put on ships and driven around slowly? actually, we're setting a precedent that undercuts the geneva convention. this is a haphazard approach because they won't use gitmo. we are actually bastard dyeing the law of war, setting a bad precedent and this is a horrible idea. >> two things, one is the obama administration says they have almost 100% conviction rate. >> who cares? >> i'm just telling you what they said. and secondly by the time the boat gets here, will gitmo be there? president obama wants to get rid of gitmo. >> gitmo is going nowhere any time soon. we are fighting a war not a crime. the guy didn't steal a car. i don't want a history lesson on ansar al sharia. i would like to hold him for months, if not years, to find out what he he knows about future attacks, how
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benghazi unfolded. you are gathering intelligence to win a war. obama is fighting a crime. i am trying to fight a war. this president's policies are coming home to roost withdrawing from iraq, now afghanistan failing to deal with syria. and having detention interrogation policies that deny us the ability to gather intelligence, to keep this country safe. this guy is not a common criminal. he is he a terrorist. >> all right, yes/no. iraq is collapsing? >> yes. >> all right. is afghanistan going to collapse as well? >> just as sure as the sunrises in the east. if he we pull all of our troops out in 2016, the women that you talk about -- >> -- the taliban? look, i don't understand, the united states. >> you looked her in the eye and said she assured the women of afghanistan we will not abandon you. well, to the women of afghanistan, your worse nightmare is about to come true. this president's policies in iraq and afghanistan is happening here. safe haven from jerry to
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iraq to launch the next 9/11. we no longer gather intelligence. we turn the war into a crime. putting a guy on a ship is a dumb idea. he should be in gitmo. >> does it mean we lost the war in iraq and we are about to lose the war in afghanistan? >> we are on the verge of losing the war in iraq. we are certainly going to lose in afghanistan if we withdraw our forces. 13 or 14 left behind in afghanistan would hold the place together. all it took was a residual force and hand holding. we disengage politically. we withdrew our troops. we createed a vacuum afghanistan is next. of this president's foreign policy is making the world a much more dangerous place and far more likely to get attacked than we were before. >> senator, nice to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> benghazi suspect khatallah is right now on a u.s. ship and getting grilled by u.s.
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interrogators. sharyl attkisson joins us. nice to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> what should we hears a making steamer across the ocean. >> hard to say. they want to get his story down off people who haven't been identified by the administration. >> this is the guy. sitting in cafes drinking lattes and islamic extremists, he doesn't like americans. are they sure this is a guy who is an integral part of this? >> they seem pretty sure. i guess they don't really know until they get at the facts and interview him and perhaps hold hip to a trial. it's there is pretty good evidence they seem to think they have before they ivan pinpointed him and decided to go after him or they wouldn't have bothered to pick him up. >> what do they think he did? >> he is supposedly a ringleader. someone who would have led the people on the benghazi attacks that night. a person who would be the ideological leader. someone who who is would be
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the one organizing that night. i would remind you there was a video that the administration never released after promising it it would do so surelts video of the attack i'm told in some cases pretty good images of some of the attackers on sight. piece of evidence that administration has when they are looking for suspects. >> how many other suspects are they looking for? it looks like there is a crowd of people with me mortars, how do you define that universe? i suspect that if he is the guy, if he is not just an awful, hateful person but is he actually a terrorist murderer, they are hoping is he going to lead them to people. >> i don't know the answer to whether they are going kingpins five or six people they think are the most instrumental or are they really trying to get dozens and dozens of people who took part including looters to took part in the party. i don't know the answer to that. >> any reason why it took so long? greg palkot found them a month later.
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i assume they were trying to gather evidence. they had this tape as you stated and two years is a long time. >> it wasn't a matter of them gathering evidence or knowing for sure that they felt they had their suspect it was a matter of feeling as though there was a good time to take him in the way that would be the least intrusive to the libyans diplomatically. there is also the consideration you don't want a scenario where you go into n. to arrest a suspect and you have more americans hurt. and there is also a scenario they considered whereby they knew he was guarded and surrounded by protecters. they didn't want to start a small war in a libyan city. while trying to pick up this suspect. so they felt they had to wait for the right time it seems like we are a little bit. i want us to be cautious to protect americans and other civilian libyans. >> it has been suggested. other reporters have said why can't do you what we did and pretend to be a reporter and meet with them and they realize people were saying that but they felt that they were following the most prudent course and i guess they felt like they had
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their best opportunity this weekend. >> let's hope this is the beginning of much more. cheryl, thank you. >> thank you. well, president obama may be declaring victory with the khatallah capture. but they are still taking heat big time for the release of five taliban leaders. the latest "wall street journal" nbc news poll is grim for president obama show only 47% approve of his handling of the policy. john sununu joins us. nice to see you sir. >> good to be here. >> only 37% approve of his handling of the foreign policy. >> 37% approve of his foreign policy. absolute disaster. 37% of the population has no idea what's going on around the world. lieberman, former senator lieberman said the world is going to hell and i think is he right. >> where is president obama making this problem? >> no leadership, no experience. this is a man -- remember this is a man whose
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experience was abstaining 1250 times when he was a state senator. avoiding making decisions. he doesn't understand that when you don't make a decision i are just as likely to have a problem as you are making a decision that has some impact. >> how do you just appose this against president bush 43 who had been a governor but the governorship of as governorship of other states. he didn't an enormous amount of experience and he brought us into iraq with no weapons of mass destruction. >> he brought us into those conflicts post 9/11 when this country was concerned about people following up the 9/11 attack with other attacks. when you are president under the gun like that, you make a series of decisions that you hope will protect the country. and going into iraq was partly because of the weapons of mass destruction, but it was also much conservatorship that it was serving as a base for the al qaeda folks that led the attack on 9/11. >> another poll nbc "wall street journal," 54% say
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this no longer feel the president is able to lead the country and get the job down. >> what took them so long? they should have seen this in the first term. this man shouldn't have been given a second term. it's a year and a half two years too late. >> iraq is falling apart. it's collapsing. afghanistan doesn't look any better. >> look, he has to realize he has to make duff decision. deal with diplomatic pressure to influence iraq to create a government that represents both the sunnis and the she a. he has got to leverage that with a little bit of willingness to exert u.s. power they have lost all
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faith in whatever this president says. >> how does he do that? things are moving very rapidly in iraq. not like he has got a long runway. >> like asking me what i should due do a foot and a half from the bottom what should we do to save him. he ought to start doing the right things. i can't give you the recipe to undue do the mess this president has brought the country into. >> two years to make one arrest in benghazi attack. the attack that viciously killed four americans. one of them was sean smith. his mother pat smith joins us. reaction to the suspect's arrest. good evening, pat. >> hi there. every time i talk to you i feel horrible knowing this was your only son not that it would make it better if you had more sons. i talked to you here at fox. the news of the arrest of one suspect, does that in any way bring any sort of comfort to getting more
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answers? not a bit. there were quite a few people that compound compound there was an awful lot of information that came to them before it happened. this guy that stood amped and drank his lattes or whatever. i'm not sure that he was involved in anything. this is only one guy of many. what happened to the rest of them? how come it took so long for them to find one guy that says here, i am? >> what could sort of relieve some of the agony? he we can't take all the agony away from you at all is there anything that can aleve at least a little bit of it? >> oh, sure. there is one thing in particular. tell me the truth. tell me what happened. >> who can tell that you? >> hillary. what specific questions would you lay out to her. give me an idea of the questions you need answered. >> i want to know why she
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did not give security when it was called upon for so many times, at least 8 that i know of. that they needed more security. she refused to do it. she is blaming everybody else, even though it was her territory. it was her department putter people in harm's way. they don't ever leave anyone behind. but they do. they left him behind. they -- he had -- he got the telephone call that says sorry about you are on your own, there is no help coming. tell me how that is not leaving anybody behind. >> maybe in a private audience with secretary clinton or if there is going to be a benghazi committee, if you got those answers that would, you know, in some very small.
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>> she said the buck stops with me. that she takes responsibility. that is not enough. she said this was her responsibility as the -- that's not enough. absolutely not. when this happened, she was responsible. and my information that i got it may be wrong, i don't know. but i believe it's right, she was watching all this happening, when it happened with the drone, the drones came inspect and she was watching it happen. she knew what was happening. how can she dare stand up
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there and tell me that it was okay to murder my son? why does she have to do that? >> you know, the last thing i want to do is to be -- you know, correcting a grieving mother. i will say that one of the things that has sort of been a mistake out there. they weren't watching in realtime. not that that in any way relieves anybody of responsibility. at least that's what secretary clinton said. they weren't watching realtime. but i don't mean in any way to say that your pain isn't real and that you shouldn't get answers. >> at a different time she did say the other that it was in realtime. i don't know how that fits into anything. but either way, that is her department and her people. nobody washed out for them. >> pat, thank you very much for joining us. and i hope when the benghazi committee meets that they will ask more questions and that it will in some way help a little bit. thank you, pat. >> i want to be there. thank you. >> and developing right now islamic militants targeting
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iraq's largest oil refinery. a live report from iraq is next. also, former secretary of state, hillary clinton talking about our marines stuck in a mexican prison. secretary clinton has strong words will president obama words will president obama listen to upgrade to the philips norelco shaver series 8000 for the most advanced shaving experience. with gyroflex 3d technology, you can get to those hard to reach places for the ultimate shave wet or dry. guaranteed. visit philips.com/fathersday now to save $50. i dbefore i dosearch any projects on my home. i love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angie's list for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.
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this is a fox news alert. conditions in iraq are deteriorating. now violent clashes at iraq's biggest oil refinery. iraqi troops battling sunni militants for control and also today iraq's prime minister vowing to strike back against isis. for the very latest we go live to grn reporter in iraq. tell me what's the latest with this refinery? >> it looks as iraqi army is still in control of it heavy fighting broke out this morning at about 4:00 a.m. and at noon we were told that the militants had 7 5% control of the refinery. basically everything except the main control room. but, later reports said that the iraqi army was back in control. so it is a situation influx. what they have done in the meantime is they have taken the refinery line.
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so -- last 24 hours we have seen very long lines at gas stations because people are scared about the gas running out. >> any idea how close the sunni militants or isis is to baghdad? >> well, they have been fighting for several days now. they have been fighting in the town of baqubah, which is about 30, 40 miles north of baghdad. yesterday they seemed to -- they took several districts briefly but, again, were ousted by the iraqi military. but that is, at the moment that's the front line north of baghdad. >> do you have the sense that conditions are getting better, deteriorating or essentially staying the same for the last couple days? >> i think they seem to be staying the same. it is certainly the iraqi army is managing to push back in baqubah. the town of tal afar taken monday was heavily shelled by the iraqi army today it still seems to be under
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control of the militants but the army is pushing back. yeah, so, it seems to be staying more or less the same, i would say. >> thank you. >> thank you. and there is news tonight that president obama has now sent f-18s to iraq to do surveillance missions. should the president be doing more or even less? ive in iraq war
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this is an iraqi civil war. and it's time the iraqis to resolve it themselves. >> we'll be monitoring the situation in iraq very carefully over the next several days. >> i think delay actually favors the enemy here and it's been going on for days. >> i am looking for the overall strategy that will help secure the gains that we have made. >> i think we need a decision. >> what should the u.s. be doing or not doing about this growing and disturbing chaos in iraq. representative adam sensinger served in iraq is
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he also a pilot. good to see you. >> good to be here. >> f-18s to do surveillance. they can fly off air travel tear years so a good idea? >> i think it's a good start. i think it can serve two purposes, a show of force which is maybe emboldening the iraqi military potentially and emboldening the iraqi people. they have good isr capability. ability to see the ground. this is what they do when they do close air support. it may be gathering support on location some of these units. figure out wwhere they are buttd up at and movements are i want to say quickly it's interesting to see harry reid talk about this. he is the one that said a few years ago that the war in iraq is lost and we ought to just leave and then we turned around and won the war and now he is basically saying the war in iraq is lost again. >> have we won or lost? where are we? >> we had it won in 2011. the president made a huge mistake by pulling all the residual forces out. that's a real issue. >> no spouse of forces agreement.
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he claims that he couldn't get a status of forces aagreement because they wouldn't give immunity to our soldiers. >> he he claims that so he can check a box and say he tried. >> do you believe that he could have gotten one. >> i believe he could have, yeah. look what's happened in afghanistan. they have been trying to negotiate a status of forces agreement every year now. every time they are told no they go back and now we are waiting for the next president. if we had that tenacity in iraq i don't think it would have taken that much. >> why didn't he? because he wanted to get out of there or because he didn't think with tenacity he would get one? >> no, because at the end of the day he wanted to say that he followed through on campaign promise to get out of iraq. he is he offering 3 to a thousand troops. maliki said 10 or 20,000 is needed to get the job. if you need 3,000 or a thousand troops there is more of a political cost to me than there is any benefit thousand to a thousand troops. the president didn't want this from the beginning. >> what is our current national security in iraq. i said that's why we are doing anything. what is it? >> i think it's the prevention of isis from establishing a calafate in the middle east. this is a group that i have said makes al qaeda look
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like puppy dogs and kitty cats. they are brutal and killing people regularly. they want to establish a calafate. i think emboldening the iraqi state eventually take back their territory, buttoning down isis and the camps they are in nowxd to prevent their freedom of movement and dealing with a serious political solution in iraq are s. our best bet. iguarantee it's the panacea though. >> irony getting some support from iran and so is al maliki. iran is giving support to both sides of this fight. >> iran and this is why i'm a big believer we can't ally ourselves with them. we display a breech in security interest. iraq was unstable because of iran. half of our casualties in iraq were as a direct or indirect result of what iran was doing. they nor ally of us. the enemy in this case is still very much our enemy. >> congressman, nice to see you sir. >> you bet. >> isis about 35 miles from baghdad. they are vowing to march on to baghdad. syria's ambassador of the u.n. blaming the u.s. for
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creating. did we create it it? >> of course not. this is iranian propaganda. they would like the europeans especially to believe that the iranian-backed forces are the legitimate forces. he they want to draw europe and ultimately us in on their side. so that's what this is intended to form the basis of. >> what is the catalyst for isis? i thought part of the reason was what happened in syria and the fact that we made no effort to back sort of the moderate rebels so up from the ashes rise isis. >> i think in the case of the iraqi side of it the grievance side that you are seeing played out are in part al maliki's side of the sunnies. not just isis fighting now against the al maliki government. it's the sunni tribes and the militias. hopefully they will later split. that's why it's importantñr for the assad regime, the maliki regime and iran to say this is basically a fight against al qaeda like terrorists so that the europeans and ultimately the
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obama administration come in on iran's side. >> how do you define our national interest in iraq right now? >> i think the principle issue here is what's the biggest threat? and the biggest threat is iran. it's iran pursuing nuclear weapons. it's iran, the world central bank of international terrorism. it's iran trying to reestablish its arc of power from iran through iraq, syria, and lebanon. that's not to say that there is anything to recommend isis. i think this is a classic case where we ought to let them fight it out in the short-term and what we should really be focused on now is overthrowing the regime in tehran. >> so you would do nothing, you would let them fight it out to the bitter end in iraq? >> not to the bitter end but in the short-term, i don't see any point in helping the maliki government. he has had his chance to govern fairly in iraq and he has failed. people say that he we don't want iraq to be partitioned, it is already partitioned. the kurds are defactor independent. they will not voluntarily come back in to a unitary government in iran.
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it's hard for me to imagine the sunnies would ever agree to be 2 5% of an arab state. >> 20/20 hindsight then senator joe biden chairman of the senate foreign relations committee thought we should divide iraq into three parts, kurds, sunni and shites. >> i didn't say it's a good idea but it's the direction it's going in. >> would that have been a good idea. >> depends on what kind of sunni state might have emerged. this kind of sunni state is unacceptable to us. that's why the withdraw of the american forces by the obama administration is so important there no guarantee we could have held iraq together. it was only a matter of time before what we are seeing now happened. >> quick answer could we have gotten a status of forces agreement? >> absolutely. i used to negotiate those when i was at the state department. >> it was pretext for him to withdraw political conundrum. >> answered he knew that. >> he knew that absolutely. >> thank you. >> thousands of immigrant children pouring into the u.s. next guest takes you right to the border for first hand look at what is happening there a loss for the washington redskins. the name game is not over
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crisis at our border show nothing signs of letting up. immigrant children most without parents streaming into the united states central america. nest guest seeing the crisis unfold firsthand. christopher cabrera seeing hundreds of children at the border. he joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening, how are you? >> very well. so, tell me what you saw and this is between the different checkpoints in texas, right? >> yes, yes. border patrol check point. there this morning our agents apprehended a group of almost 300 people that had turned themselves in, all of them women and children. >> and are the children i assume some children are escorted by parents, some are not? >> yeah. some of the children are escorted by their parents, mainly their mothers and others are either with another sibling or sometimes all alone. >> how young are some of the unescorted children do you estimate? >> we have some that it are as young as 5 or 6 years old
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that are coming alone. >> what do you do with them when they cross the border border? >> well, you know, the children they -- they are very delicate. you know, so they have to be treated a different way. with them, they go to the front of the line as far as the processing. we try to treat them as gently as we possibly can. but the sad reality of it is we are not equipped to handle the special needs that these children have. >> all right, now, every single day you are seeing these same numbers or is this an unusual spike number today? >> you know, it's not always a group of almost 300 but it's not uncommon. usual groups are are about 50 to 60. but they do pile up real quick. and the numbers are are about average. you know, average of about 100, maybe 200 or 300 a day per station. >> agent, thank you very much for joining us. good luck, sir. >> thank you. >> and joining us our political panel. nina easton, "u.s.a. today"
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kirsten powers and the national journal's ron foreign yea, unbelievable. 300 people a day, unescorted. >> complicated obviously. this is a country for decades now we have opened our hearts and our wallets to refugees around the globe. i know it's more complicated these folks being right on our border and not being legal, what else can we do but be the great country we are, take these kids and take care of them. >> you call them refugees when i think of refugees i usually think of sudan where president bashir is bombing his people food and water and fleeing. are these refugees in the con generational sense? >> i think so. not literally in that sense. kids fleeing economic deprivation and severe violence. and they need this nation's help. and they are going to be, you know, they are going to make this nation better if we give them a good head start here. >> kirsten? >> refugees did extensive report on why these children are fleeing their country. mostly in very violent countries. there is gang violence.
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there is organized crime violence in addition to poverty. i think that, look, i mean what kind of child can do something like this, can go to -- i mean can i imagine. i have a niece that's a years old. i can't imagine a a-year-old or even older kids doing this kind of thing. and i think that we have to huge humanitarian crisis and something we have to find resources to care for them. >> you know, where have we been on these governments? we have a lot of diplomat muscle. these governments are profoundly irresponsible whether it's crime or economics or whatever. what are they doing and what are we doing? >> that's the thing. i have to respectfully disagree with you guys. igrtnxbae i'm watching these children. it's incredibly dangerous for them to be going up with smugglers subjected to possibly abandonment, sexual assault, all sorts of things and then to watch them in these settings when, you know they get sick, they pass on the sickness, it's incredibly difficult. what you don't want to do sen courage this to continue. this is already -- you have to look at why so it was
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about 6,000 unaccompanied minors last year. we are already up to 42,000. they are looking at 60,000. >> wait, wait. let me just say i think you have to say that the door is closed. it's clear it is very clear from a lot of the antidotal reporting that the the rumor mill has -- these central american countries is saying that once you get here, if you are unaccompanied minor, you can stay. and that's -- >> i don't think we should be listening to antidotal reporting though there has been extensive reporting done by the u.n. i have talked to various. i have talked to he evangelize group working with these kids. very consistent why. >> can i on the violence thing. >> on mexico was incredible rifn by violence and gang violence and also risen by were. you don't have tens of thousands of children, unaccompanied minors showing up at the border. >> i understand what you are saying but, number one, we don't want to be the kind of country that's turning kids
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away and sending them back in a dangerous environment. number two, political point here, the republican party doesn't want to be a party seen as a party that is turning kids away. the republican party already has a hard enough time figuring out how it's going to elect a president in our lifetime with just the general immigration problem. with the parties actually seen as pushing kids away. you might not have a republican president in our lifetime. think about what the impact of that is. >> i'm not looking at politics but the safety. >> it's bad news for the republican party. >> we have got to take a quick break. stay with us. up next, former secretary of state hillary clinton speaking with sergeant tahmooressi. one marine, our marine languishing in a mexican prison. prison. she is not the when folks think about what they get from alaska, prison. she is not the they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs.
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let's all go off-the-record for main. this is unthinkable. a u.s. marine rotting in a prison in mexico for almost three months. yes, of course, i'm speaking about sergeant tahmooressi who do d. two tours of afghanistan for us. so what are we doing for him? well, for starters, three outspoken women are standing up for our marine. the first bun is his mother jill tahmooressi. pounded the pavement and even sat outside his mexican prison with us. >> he is not a criminal. he made a mistake and made a wrong turn. and said right at the border, i have got guns. i don't want to be here. let me turn around and go home. >> former secretary hillary clinton too. here is what she told me last night about how she would handle sergeant tahmooressi's imprisonment. >> i can tell you what i would be doing. burning up the telephone wires, sending, you know, envoys, not just our ambassador others coming in and talking to the highest level next can officials, making it clear that this is really important toçó us. >> and then there is is the momma grizzly herself. former governor sarah palin. she has had it. she just posted on her
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facebook page in part it's crappy more theant been done to free this u.s. marine. we must do more. perhaps sergeant tahmooressi deserted his post his mother would get the red carpet treatment at the white house instead of being ignored. i have a question for two men. you know the two guys, president obama and secretary kerry, if these three people can speak up? where are you? he we are waiting. that's my off-the-record comment tonight. and of course you just heard former secretary of state hillary clinton she says she would turn up the efforts to get sergeant tahmooressi out of jail. what exactly would she do? here is what secretary clinton told us "on the record" last night. >> we should be doing or i can tell you what i would be doing, burning up the telephone wires, sending, you know, envoys, not just our ambassador but others coming, in talking to the highest level of mexican officials, making it clear that this is really important to us. you know, we work with our counterparts, our friends in mexico on a lot of issues.
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obviously it's something that is in our interest to do it as it is in theirs. when this kind of action happens and somebody who, as you say, made an accidental turn, who is serving our country, ends up in a prison, that is just unacceptable. >> would you expect that if you were still secretary of state and you made a phone call that they would get on this immediately? >> well, i'm not sure it would be only one phone call, we might have to it make a couple of them. >> we have enough diplomatic muscle with mexico it doesn't have to drag on this long. >> i don't know the specifics but i certainly expect that everything is being done that can can be done. maybe we need to raise the decibels a little bit more. >> back with our political panel. ron, i'm just asking that mexico fast track this because i'm convinced anyone who looks at this would cut them loose. what's your thought on this? >> they should and i wish they would, too too. the problem is they have their politics and we have a he very little control over. one thing we don't know is what our administration really is doing. what they are doing behind the scenes. >> i will tell you what they just did.
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four mexican police officers made a mistake and turned into the the united states in the early part of june and two days we let them out. >> which is the exact right thing that this country should do. we don't know for all we know. >> how about our guy? >> you don't know that we didn't do that he though. i also would be a little bit careful from b. what hillary clinton said yesterday there a s. a little bit of pandering going on yesterday as well. does she really take all those actions and know better what the administration, i won't just take everybody's word on this one right now. >> it's not a delicate situation. this is in iran. this is mexico. they are one of our allies. we share a border with them. i mean, i don't know like why you can't be more aggressive with. they why you couldn't hold back these other people until they handed over this person who has ptsd. it's not that he is somebody who made a mistake and is in jail. which in and of itself mexican government. they should be ashamed of the face they are showing to the world. taken a person who has ptsd and traumatizing them again
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is so utterly inhumane. i would love to know what john kerry is doing. >> what they're doing is inhumane and he would do the same thing? >> what's that. >> what is he doing is inhumane you would. >> i don't think we would be treating them the way he they are treating him. we would put them up in a four star, five star hotel. we wouldn't be mistreating them. according to how he says he has been treated. he has been treated very inhumanely. >> i thought it was interesting from the hillary clinton perspective because all during your interview and previous interviews she has been very careful to al line herself with the sitting administration. i expected her to distance herself more from the terrorist swap and i would didn't see this. this was one area where she was way out ahead of the administration which has raised concerns and has this mooted language about it. she was guns blazing. also interesting to recall when those hikers were taken in iran she banged the drums
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at that point as well. but i think it's interesting that she used that opportunity of all the opportunities there were to kind of set herself apart from john kerry. and barack obama. >> all i want is just to fast track the procedure. just take a look at it you know, that's all. >> you don't think they looked at it, greta? >> you could not look -- listen, i have driven that myself. that's the turn i would have made. >> you don't think they have looked at it. >> that's worse. that's worse. >> they can't be so in the dark about what's happening here. i mean, this is something that's getting so much media attention, they have to be know what happened. >> do you have any idea, that's a very good point, do you know why she went this strong on this? why she would pick this issue to distance herself? >> probably because it was a good audience for her to do it in front of, right, on fox news, and she -- it's probably -- it certainly safer for her to do than the terrorist swap' which she was involved in. >> panel, i have got to go. i'm going to to get cut off by the computer.
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